Carly Simon shared her support for the “Me Too” movement, but with some qualification. She said it has created an atmosphere where “it’s just dangerous for men to act like men.”
“I welcome it and now I hope that it will go back to a position where things will be normalized,” the “You’re So Vain” and “Nobody Does it Better” singer said of the anti-sexual harassment movement. Simon made this comments in an interview with The Guardian published Thursday.
“Not that I want anybody to shut up or to not tell it like it is, but it also feels a little bit unnatural for me that men can’t say a flattering thing to a woman without there being a possible reckoning,” Simon, 74, added.
The Grammy Award winner noted that she herself has been “harmed by” the “casting couch in a number of cases” in her life.
“But I think at this point it’s just dangerous for men to act like men. Not that the men who go overboard and disrespect a woman are acting like men. You know what I mean,” she said.
Simon shared dismay at what she called other ways artists, particularly women, can be taken advantage of.
“Maybe the time will come when we women who have been raped financially will be on the record to talk about that because I know a lot of other women who have been screwed,” said Simon. “A lot of men have been screwed, too. There aren’t as many of them as men who are in powerful positions to do it, but I’m sure that it’s probably being done by women as we speak.”
Simon also talked about once meeting President Trump, then a New York real estate pro, at a luncheon for Benazir Bhutto, the Pakistani prime minister who was assassinated in 2007.
“When I came into the room, there was Trump and a whole bunch of New York dignitaries. Trump wasn’t paying any attention to me at all. Why would he?” Simon said.
But when Bhutto requested a private talk with the Simon, “I had all of a sudden become important through the eyes of Donald Trump.”
“So he was very anxious to meet me and invited me to Mar-a-Lago and was all over me like ugly on an ape,” Simon remembered. The entertainer said she refused Trump’s offer to visit his Florida estate because “I thought he was kind of repulsive.”
Simon then used a line from her famous song, Trump is “so vain, that’s for sure, and not in the best possible way.”
“He doesn’t bring humor to the word,” Simon continued. “In the song, hopefully, the person could wink at himself in the mirror because he got the joke.”
“I don’t think there’s much interest outside himself,” Simon said. “What will happen with a narcissist is that they’re interested in themselves and anything that’s an extension of themselves, perhaps their children, but he’s not interested in the philosophy of great thinkers, I suspect.”